Comments on: Another law professor speaks, and I answer http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468 General Geekery from Fredericksburg VA Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:20:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: The 7th Country Fair Is Open! | The Country Fair http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468&cpage=1#comment-8676 The 7th Country Fair Is Open! | The Country Fair Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:55:55 +0000 http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468#comment-8676 [...] Chris, of O’Donnell Web (Not a Homeschooling Blog), pans a big old paper written about homeschooling in “Another Law Professor Speaks, and I Answer“ [...] [...] Chris, of O’Donnell Web (Not a Homeschooling Blog), pans a big old paper written about homeschooling in “Another Law Professor Speaks, and I Answer“ [...]

]]> By: JJ Ross http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468&cpage=1#comment-8622 JJ Ross Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:11:56 +0000 http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468#comment-8622 Exactly my beef, Velma -- it makes feminism and advanced university degrees look stupid and poorly researched. :) Exactly my beef, Velma — it makes feminism and advanced university degrees look stupid and poorly researched. :)

]]> By: Velma Beale http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468&cpage=1#comment-8619 Velma Beale Mon, 11 Jun 2007 17:20:55 +0000 http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468#comment-8619 As a liberal, feminist, university educated (MA +), atheist, former college instructor, retired public school teacher, homeschooling grandmother I resent the faulty assumptions this paper is based upon. And if the paper is based on faulty assumptions, then the conclusions are, by definition, flawed. If you set up a straw man to topple, you should at least have the honesty to say, "If this is the case, then..." and not go on as if this was established fact. Even her ionterpretations of law seem very flawed in my opinion (see original post above). I also resent the fact that she has set herself up as representing the view point of liberal educated women, at least in the eyes of many readers. Any paper that is grant funded that has no research into the foundational "problem," and an unbiased view of previous approaches to it, is not worth the paper it is printed on, and is certainly not worthy of grant funding and publication by a university professor. Even if her law points were valid (I cannot judge that), it is still most unscholarly. I wish I could get grant funding for sitting in my chair and writing about some unfounded pet theory off the top of my head (a most dangerous place to be). As a liberal, feminist, university educated (MA +), atheist, former college instructor, retired public school teacher, homeschooling grandmother I resent the faulty assumptions this paper is based upon. And if the paper is based on faulty assumptions, then the conclusions are, by definition, flawed. If you set up a straw man to topple, you should at least have the honesty to say, “If this is the case, then…” and not go on as if this was established fact. Even her ionterpretations of law seem very flawed in my opinion (see original post above).

I also resent the fact that she has set herself up as representing the view point of liberal educated women, at least in the eyes of many readers.

Any paper that is grant funded that has no research into the foundational “problem,” and an unbiased view of previous approaches to it, is not worth the paper it is printed on, and is certainly not worthy of grant funding and publication by a university professor. Even if her law points were valid (I cannot judge that), it is still most unscholarly. I wish I could get grant funding for sitting in my chair and writing about some unfounded pet theory off the top of my head (a most dangerous place to be).

]]> By: Corn and Oil » Homeschooling is “viable” http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468&cpage=1#comment-8618 Corn and Oil » Homeschooling is “viable” Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:20:30 +0000 http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468#comment-8618 [...] Another law professor speaks, and I answer - O’Donnell Web [...] [...] Another law professor speaks, and I answer – O’Donnell Web [...]

]]> By: HEM Editor’s Blog » Blog Archive » Illiberal Education: Constitutional Constraints on Homeschooling http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468&cpage=1#comment-8616 HEM Editor’s Blog » Blog Archive » Illiberal Education: Constitutional Constraints on Homeschooling Sat, 09 Jun 2007 23:58:52 +0000 http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468#comment-8616 [...] HEM News & Commentary Editor Valerie Bonham Moon posted a note to her blog about a new research paper which is raising waves in homeschooling circles. Valerie gives a nod to homeschooling dad Chris O’Donnell for unearthing this find, and I likewise send appreciation to Chris for being right on top of things. [...] [...] HEM News & Commentary Editor Valerie Bonham Moon posted a note to her blog about a new research paper which is raising waves in homeschooling circles. Valerie gives a nod to homeschooling dad Chris O’Donnell for unearthing this find, and I likewise send appreciation to Chris for being right on top of things. [...]

]]> By: Girls On Girls Gone Wild (defining each other) « Cocking A Snook! http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468&cpage=1#comment-8607 Girls On Girls Gone Wild (defining each other) « Cocking A Snook! Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:05:18 +0000 http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468#comment-8607 [...] Girls On Girls Gone Wild (defining each other) 9 06 2007 Chris has been on top of liberal ps-supporting women defining homeschool women by class and calling for our status to become a matter of public policy concern, so I’m following his blog closely and urge you to too, if you can. I just posted this comment there: [...] [...] Girls On Girls Gone Wild (defining each other) 9 06 2007 Chris has been on top of liberal ps-supporting women defining homeschool women by class and calling for our status to become a matter of public policy concern, so I’m following his blog closely and urge you to too, if you can. I just posted this comment there: [...]

]]> By: Mom of All Seasons http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468&cpage=1#comment-8590 Mom of All Seasons Thu, 07 Jun 2007 17:58:59 +0000 http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468#comment-8590 Here in Michigan, being "held back" for failure to progress at "grade level" in a public school can only be recommended by teachers or school systems. A child's parent or guardian always has the right to decline such a recommendation and the child will be moved into the next grade level. As my neighbor, a public school teacher says, "You can lead a child to information, but you cannot MAKE him think." Among the hallowed "subjects" of math, reading, English, science and social studies, there is no specific content required of non-public schools, which is how the "highly regarded" private schools that my nieces and nephews attend avoid teaching the scientific basis for that "nasty little theory" of evolution. Here in Michigan, being “held back” for failure to progress at “grade level” in a public school can only be recommended by teachers or school systems. A child’s parent or guardian always has the right to decline such a recommendation and the child will be moved into the next grade level. As my neighbor, a public school teacher says, “You can lead a child to information, but you cannot MAKE him think.”

Among the hallowed “subjects” of math, reading, English, science and social studies, there is no specific content required of non-public schools, which is how the “highly regarded” private schools that my nieces and nephews attend avoid teaching the scientific basis for that “nasty little theory” of evolution.

]]> By: Rolfe http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468&cpage=1#comment-8588 Rolfe Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:46:29 +0000 http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468#comment-8588 Thanks JJ. It's funny, it didn't cross my mind that the homeschooled kids were supposed to be the ones ending up ethically servile. I've got some reading to do. Thanks JJ. It’s funny, it didn’t cross my mind that the homeschooled kids were supposed to be the ones ending up ethically servile. I’ve got some reading to do.

]]> By: JJ Ross http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468&cpage=1#comment-8587 JJ Ross Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:51:08 +0000 http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468#comment-8587 Running out to busy few hours - Rolfe, this is long and high-level but you can handle it. :) <a href="http://www.nhen.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=614" rel="nofollow">Read this NHEN discussion</a>straight through to the end, and you will understand where "ethical servility" comes from, and why it is SO insidiously wrong. And some of the best responses to it, that we've teased out as Thinking Parents . . . back later today. Running out to busy few hours – Rolfe, this is long and high-level but you can handle it. :) Read this NHEN discussionstraight through to the end, and you will understand where “ethical servility” comes from, and why it is SO insidiously wrong. And some of the best responses to it, that we’ve teased out as Thinking Parents . . . back later today.

]]> By: Nance Confer http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468&cpage=1#comment-8586 Nance Confer Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:34:23 +0000 http://www.odonnellweb.com/?p=3468#comment-8586 Oh, that link WAS worth visiting -- http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2007/06/teach_your_chil.html Thanks Chris. Nance Oh, that link WAS worth visiting — http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/p....._chil.html

Thanks Chris.

Nance

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